{"id":78504,"date":"2025-10-15T02:21:08","date_gmt":"2025-10-15T01:21:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/?p=78504"},"modified":"2026-03-25T13:49:08","modified_gmt":"2026-03-25T13:49:08","slug":"scott-barry-kaufman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mindvalley.com\/blog\/scott-barry-kaufman\/","title":{"rendered":"Psychologist Scott Barry Kaufman on why trauma became a trend and how to rise above it"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trauma, it seems, is a trend these days.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But according to psychologist <strong>Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman<\/strong>, it\u2019s not the kind that leads us down the runway of awareness. It\u2019s the kind where we wear our wounds like couture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<em>Now, we have vulnerability on steroids<\/em>,\u201d he says in a Mindvalley Book Club interview. \u201c<em>The only way to connect to another person now is through your vulnerability<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s nothing wrong with that. But when pain becomes fashion instead of fuel for transformation, that\u2019s when society has a problem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And that problem, as Dr. Kaufman points out, hides a deeper truth: most people aren\u2019t ready to heal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-who-is-scott-barry-kaufman-exactly\">Who is Scott Barry Kaufman exactly?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s a lot to say about <em>the<\/em> Scott Barry Kaufman. His credentials, they are aplenty:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Psychologist,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Professor at Columbia University,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Director of the Center for Human Potential,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Host of The Psychology Podcast, and<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Best-selling author.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And if that wasn\u2019t enough, there\u2019s also this fun fact:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<em>I was rejected from American Idol<\/em>,\u201d he shares. \u201c<em>Twice<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Impressive lineup, to say the least. So it\u2019s no wonder the Mindvalley Book Club host, <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/kristina-mand-lakhiani\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Kristina M\u04d3nd-Lakhiani<\/a>, introduces him as \u201c<em>really remarkable, amazing<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But behind all the accolades is someone who knows what it feels like to be underestimated. As a child, Dr. Kaufman struggled with an auditory disability that made teachers label him \u201cslow.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He wasn\u2019t. He was simply wired differently: imaginative, curious, and quietly determined to prove that human potential can\u2019t be measured by a report card.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That ethos shaped everything Dr. Kaufman stands for today. He&#8217;s out here helping people see what they&#8217;re truly capable of. And his latest book, <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/47UHLWt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Rise Above: Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential<\/em><\/a>, is his contribution to a world stuck in its own pain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<em>I wanted to write a book that met people more where they are right now<\/em>,\u201d he says. \u201c<em>It feels like people are really suffering right now<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s exactly what the World Health Organization reported. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.who.int\/news\/item\/02-09-2025-over-a-billion-people-living-with-mental-health-conditions-services-require-urgent-scale-up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">More than a billion people worldwide are living with mental health conditions<\/a>, and rates of anxiety and depression have surged since the pandemic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<em>I think that there\u2019s so much more humans could become<\/em>,\u201d Dr. Kaufman adds. And yet, few truly rise above.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-why-we-struggle-to-rise-above-according-to-scott-barry-kaufman\">Why we struggle to \u201crise above,\u201d according to Scott Barry Kaufman<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Most people want to rise above their pain. The problem, Dr. Kaufman points out, is that we\u2019re wired and conditioned not to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<em>Helplessness is the default state in humans<\/em>,\u201d he says. And, as research shows, that\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.frontiersin.org\/journals\/social-psychology\/articles\/10.3389\/frsps.2024.1360377\/full\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">why we cling to what hurts us<\/a>. It feels safer than venturing into the unknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It doesn\u2019t help that the current culture we live in rewards even the tiniest of traumas. Likes and algorithm-driven sympathies have become <a href=\"https:\/\/www.frontiersin.org\/journals\/psychology\/articles\/10.3389\/fpsyg.2021.672505\/full\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">social currency<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And when someone begins to heal, there\u2019s the so-called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/journals\/the-cognitive-behaviour-therapist\/article\/survivor-guilt-a-cognitive-approach\/19F993611E0BDE9C219F16BE0E6BD622\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">survivor\u2019s guilt<\/a>. Dr. Kaufman explains that there\u2019s \u201c<em>something in human nature where you can feel almost guilty saying that you\u2019re doing good when other people aren\u2019t doing good<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As if that weren\u2019t enough, he points out that our evolutionary design prioritizes survival over joy. \u201c<em>Our genes don\u2019t care about our happiness. They just care about our survival and reproduction<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So it\u2019s no wonder so many of us are <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/what-to-do-if-youre-feeling-stuck-in-life\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">feeling stuck in life<\/a>. We\u2019re rewarded for feeling broken, wired to fear change, and distracted by pain that feels familiar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-5-powerful-practices-from-scott-barry-kaufman-to-rise-above-pain-and-grow-stronger\">5 powerful practices from Scott Barry Kaufman to rise above pain and grow stronger<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The reality is, there&#8217;s no such thing as a quick fix. Any <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/alternative-healing-trauma-ptsd\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">healing from trauma, PTSD<\/a>, or deep emotional pain requires some serious work. But it\u2019s work that\u2019s <em>worth it<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s so much more humans could become.<\/p>\n<cite>\u2014 Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, psychologist and author of <em>Rise Above<\/em><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the other side of that effort is clarity, confidence, and a version of yourself that <em>finally feels free<\/em>. And in his conversation with Kristina, Dr. Kaufman shares five methods to help you take that first step.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, they only scratch the surface of his insights on growth and healing. For more, watch the full interview on Mindvalley Book Club:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Why victim mindset keeps you stuck \u2014 and how to rise above it with Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ubNt8iGGH1k?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Why victim mindset keeps you stuck \u2014 and how to rise above it with Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-1-name-emotions-without-becoming-them\">1. Name emotions without becoming them<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Emotions. Whew, what a topic. There\u2019s one end of the spectrum where it\u2019s rainbows and sunshine. Then, there\u2019s the other side where darkness reigns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But as Dr. Kaufman points out, \u201c<em>They don\u2019t have to limit us as much as we think that they do<\/em>.\u201d What many of us don\u2019t realize is that emotions are signals rather than the shackles we\u2019ve mistaken them for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Think of when you get upset. Do you say, \u201c<em>I am angry<\/em>\u201d? Or do you say, \u201c<em>I feel anger<\/em>\u201d? (After all, you <em>aren\u2019t<\/em> your emotion, but you <em>feel<\/em> them.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Psychologists call this affect labeling, which is the simple act of naming a feeling as it happens. Research from UCLA found that doing so <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uclahealth.org\/news\/release\/putting-feelings-into-words-produces-therapeutic-effects-in-the-brain-ucla-neuroimaging-study-supports-ancient-buddhist-teachings#:~:text=Creswell%20and%20his%20UCLA%20colleagues,programs%20improve%20mood%20and%20health.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">activates your brain\u2019s reasoning center and helps you stop spiraling<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<em>Being able to notice without judgment and without identifying it as who you are<\/em>,\u201d Dr. Kaufman says, \u201c<em>creates that space between the automatic reaction and your thoughts<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And in that space, healing begins.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-2-handshake-your-monsters\">2. Handshake your monsters<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Once you\u2019re able to observe your emotion, you can start befriending the source of it. That\u2019s the whole idea behind Dr. Kaufman\u2019s \u201chandshake\u201d practice:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Welcome in your monsters (a.k.a., your uncomfortable emotions),<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Acknowledge them,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Greet them,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Ask, \u201c<em>What is it you want? Why are you bringing so much attention to my life right now?<\/em>\u201d and<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Listen.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<em>A lot of times our dark side just wants to be heard<\/em>,\u201d says Dr. Kaufman. He recalls getting frustrated at his students for being on their laptops while the great Sharon Salzberg was speaking to the class.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But instead of staying angry, he caught himself and thought, <em>Maybe something\u2019s going on in their lives right now.<\/em> That moment of empathy replaced irritation with compassion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is what <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/shadow-work\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">shadow work<\/a> looks like in real life. And once they&#8217;re seen, those monsters in the dark lose their power.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-3-practice-radical-self-honesty\">3. Practice radical self-honesty<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Self-honesty is acknowledging the truth about your feelings, habits, or motivations. It\u2019s introspection.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, <em>radical self-honesty<\/em> goes deeper. It\u2019s the kind that strips away rationalizations, ego, and self-image. And it means admitting not just what\u2019s true, but also what\u2019s uncomfortable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In Dr. Kaufman\u2019s context, the \u201cradical\u201d part matters because he\u2019s talking about breaking free from the victim mindset. That requires confronting the subtle ways you deceive yourself, like blaming circumstances or pretending you&#8217;re powerless. And in doing so, take full responsibility for your internal patterns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In psychology, this kind of self-awareness links to <a href=\"https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC10064969\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">self-concept clarity<\/a>, which is the ability to understand your beliefs, emotions, and behaviors without distortion. And when you\u2019re able to do so, the tendency to experience emotional stability, self-trust, and life satisfaction is much greater.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The fact of the matter is, <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/be-honest-with-yourself\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">being honest with yourself<\/a>, radically, takes courage. And, Dr. Kaufman says, \u201c<em>If my reader can make that insight and be that vulnerable and honest with themselves, to recognize that, I think they can achieve so much more of what they want in their life<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-4-learn-hope-like-a-skill\">4. Learn hope like a skill<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As Dr. Kaufman mentions, helplessness comes naturally to humans. Psychologists first discovered <a href=\"https:\/\/ppc.sas.upenn.edu\/sites\/default\/files\/lhtheoryevidence.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the concept of learned helplessness<\/a> in the 1960s, showing that both animals and humans can be conditioned to believe they have no control over their circumstances.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, later studies revealed that hope works the opposite way: it\u2019s a skill that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tandfonline.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1207\/S15327965PLI1304_01\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">strengthens the brain\u2019s ability to plan, problem-solve, and stay resilient<\/a> in the face of stress. So, in the words of Dr. Kaufman, \u201c<em>You have to learn hope in order to have this hope<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Easier said than done, sure. But start small. Make one decision that moves your life an inch forward, like sending that job application, reaching out to someone you trust, or taking a walk after days of staying in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Each small act of hope strengthens the very muscle that leads to <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/self-actualization-definition\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">self-actualization<\/a>. And it\u2019s from there that you begin to step into the fullest version of yourself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-5-choose-presence-over-rumination\">5. Choose presence over rumination<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s a lot of talk about being present. Yet, we have so much trouble doing it. Research even notes that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cell.com\/iscience\/fulltext\/S2589-0042%2824%2902930-4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the human brain spends 30\u201350% of waking hours in mind-wandering mode<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And what studies from Harvard found is that <a href=\"https:\/\/news.harvard.edu\/gazette\/story\/2010\/11\/wandering-mind-not-a-happy-mind\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">when people\u2019s minds wander, they report feeling less happy<\/a> than when they\u2019re focused on what they\u2019re doing. So, rumination pulls you into the past, where regret and resentment live. But presence brings you back to the only place you can actually change something\u2014<em>the here and now<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s probably why Dr. Kaufman and so many other experts emphasize mindfulness. It\u2019s known to <a href=\"https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC3679190\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">lower stress, strengthen relationships, and support mental health<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And there are several ways you can choose to be in the moment:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Notice what\u2019s happening without judgment.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Acknowledge emotions as they arise.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Practice loving-kindness toward yourself and others.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Focus fully on what\u2019s in front of you.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Take a few deep, intentional breaths.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Go for a walk or try <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/earthing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">earthing<\/a> to reconnect with your body and the ground.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Pause before reacting and take a single conscious breath.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mindvalley.com\/how-to-practice-gratitude\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Practice some form of gratitude<\/a> at the end of the day.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Spend a few minutes away from screens or social media.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Do one thing at a time and give it your full attention.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<em>Almost nothing else is as important as the moment that you\u2019re in right now<\/em>,\u201d says Dr. Kaufman. Because, let\u2019s be honest, it\u2019s really all we have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/47UHLWt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2001\" height=\"736\" src=\"https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/mv-prod-blog-en-assets\/2025\/10\/d6fe1ae9-rise-above-mindvalley-book-club-mindvalley-blog-banner.webp\" alt=\"&quot;Rise Above&quot; by Scott Barry Kaufman\" class=\"wp-image-78506\" srcset=\"https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/mv-prod-blog-en-assets\/2025\/10\/d6fe1ae9-rise-above-mindvalley-book-club-mindvalley-blog-banner.webp 2001w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/mv-prod-blog-en-assets\/2025\/10\/d6fe1ae9-rise-above-mindvalley-book-club-mindvalley-blog-banner-768x282.webp 768w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/mv-prod-blog-en-assets\/2025\/10\/d6fe1ae9-rise-above-mindvalley-book-club-mindvalley-blog-banner-1536x565.webp 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2001px) 100vw, 2001px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">(<em>Disclosure: This is an affiliate link. If you make a purchase through it, Mindvalley Book Club may earn a commission at no extra cost to you.<\/em>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-fuel-your-mind\">Fuel your mind<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If there\u2019s ever been a book that completely pulled you in, you know how words can turn into an experience. That\u2019s the essence of why the Mindvalley Book Club exists and why Kristina M\u00e4nd-Lakhiani is on a mission to make reading exciting again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Each month, she brings you inside the books that shape today\u2019s most important conversations, including Scott Barry Kaufman\u2019s books. You\u2019ll hear the lessons, the doubts, and the personal stories that never make it to print.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here\u2019s what you can expect:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>One standout book a month, chosen for its power to spark growth<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Honest, live conversations with the authors<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Practical takeaways you can apply right away<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mindvalley.com\/bookclub?utm_source=mv_blog\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>It\u2019s free to join<\/strong><\/a><strong>.<\/strong> Come read, question, and grow with us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Welcome in.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Psychologist Scott Barry Kaufman uncovers what\u2019s possible when you stop living in survival mode. 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